Comments on: Oh look, using Ajax in a stupid way is not a good idea?

By: Alex Hall

Alex Hall — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:08:45 +0000

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head here and it’s something that I’ve always tried to implement… no sorry, something I always HAVE implemented when creating more ‘funky’ web pages. The technology exists to start with, the site works completely without the need for any ajax, or javascript. This leaves a lovely platform on which to start building a more ‘enhanced’ web page. I have always adhered to the most recent standards available, and I think that this methodology requires that those standards are completely abided by. After all, what’s the point in having a web page that only half of the customer base can actually use properly?

Of course the trouble is that, like with the integration of CSS and more strict coding guidelines that apply to most languages, it’ll only be adhered to by those that actually care about it. A lot of people still use tables for layout, for example. In that sense, we can talk about people using these technologies on top of an already in place system, but realistically it’s not something that many people are going to be that bothered about at the moment, unfortunately.

Very nice article

By: Robert Stack

Robert Stack — Tue, 27 May 2008 18:47:46 +0000

Reading this Blog gave me chills. Good ones. Because the new web authoring tools I’m currently developing address many of these problems.

Anyway, great rant of a issue which needs caring attention.

warm regards
Robert Stack
Zoshe Foundation
http://www.zoshe.com

By: FataL

FataL — Fri, 02 May 2008 19:46:40 +0000

The problem that people started naming practically any enriched web-page as web application… And many thinks if it’s a web app than just forget about accessibility.
Is a flight ticket reservation to be considered a web-application? No!
Is Google Docs a web application? Yes.
Is rich text editor for forum reply a web application? No!

By: Steve Buell

Steve Buell — Thu, 01 May 2008 20:53:19 +0000

Great article. I empathize with you whole heartedly.
Two points though;
1) I’d love to send this to my CIO, but the title might be a little “off putting”. He’s cool but his subordinates may be a little pissed.
2) “I donâ��t care about accessibility because it is not needed for my usersâ��.
I love hearing this line.
My usual response goes something like this: “If the wrong thing happened to you today, tomorrow you could need accessible design to do your job”.
I follow with real examples that we have had to accommodate
That one is greeted with stunned silence.

Never lose faith,
Steve.

By: Liccy

Liccy — Thu, 01 May 2008 02:57:30 +0000

Is no more easy adapt all this readers and Web-accessibility tool to the new technology … ???

I really can’t see the web without Ajax, Comet or any kind of real-time application.

As Christ say… “Consider the users you want to reach before using a technology that may not be appropriate” that all what is about….

And anyway. there are so many way to get around the Ajax issue… well… except for the post-back one… even is nothing to do with accessibility… but i guess that should be in other topic…