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	<title>Comments on: Tackling automatic field focus usability issues</title>
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	<description>Chris Heilmann - Accessibility, Web Development and Pragmatism - can talk, will travel</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mant.indonesia</title>
		<link>http://www.wait-till-i.com/2006/10/09/tackling-automatic-field-focus-usability-issues/#comment-8100</link>
		<dc:creator>mant.indonesia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but what i need is different, i want some auto-focus script to support my manual scrambler against keylogger in the cafe/public net.

example my password is "god"

i try to fool the keylogger by scrambling what i type into login form. but they still getting log like this:

"g (click) adsfadsf (click) o (click) asdfasdf (click) d (submit)

so they get my password is "god"!

but if my browser use auto-focus, they will get log like this:

"gadfasdaoasdfasdfd"

so, can somebody tell me how to make some auto-focus script into Firefox?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but what i need is different, i want some auto-focus script to support my manual scrambler against keylogger in the cafe/public net.</p>
<p>example my password is &#8220;god&#8221;</p>
<p>i try to fool the keylogger by scrambling what i type into login form. but they still getting log like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;g (click) adsfadsf (click) o (click) asdfasdf (click) d (submit)</p>
<p>so they get my password is &#8220;god&#8221;!</p>
<p>but if my browser use auto-focus, they will get log like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;gadfasdaoasdfasdfd&#8221;</p>
<p>so, can somebody tell me how to make some auto-focus script into Firefox?</p>
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		<title>By: Yurtdisi Egitim</title>
		<link>http://www.wait-till-i.com/2006/10/09/tackling-automatic-field-focus-usability-issues/#comment-7181</link>
		<dc:creator>Yurtdisi Egitim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone knows if there is any other information about this subject in other languages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone knows if there is any other information about this subject in other languages?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Sheahan</title>
		<link>http://www.wait-till-i.com/2006/10/09/tackling-automatic-field-focus-usability-issues/#comment-5701</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Sheahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a reasonably slick generalized autofocus script that addresses the "don't mess with me when I'm already typing" issue, though not the focus-to-below-the-fold issue.  (That one's rough.)  Also handles Firefox open-in-new-tab without-switch-to, which is somewhat difficult.  (Firefox apparently silently fails to set focus in a non-active tab.)  Non-link directions are that it's in the Grimoire section of lostsouls.org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a reasonably slick generalized autofocus script that addresses the &#8220;don&#8217;t mess with me when I&#8217;m already typing&#8221; issue, though not the focus-to-below-the-fold issue.  (That one&#8217;s rough.)  Also handles Firefox open-in-new-tab without-switch-to, which is somewhat difficult.  (Firefox apparently silently fails to set focus in a non-active tab.)  Non-link directions are that it&#8217;s in the Grimoire section of lostsouls.org.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Wagner</title>
		<link>http://www.wait-till-i.com/2006/10/09/tackling-automatic-field-focus-usability-issues/#comment-5156</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 00:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, neat!  That's a good idea.  One improvement might be possible.  It looks like you're using "elms" to hold the id's of all the input fields.  But you could replace
&lt;code&gt;
  var elms = ['email','pw'];
  for(var i=0;i&lt;elms .length;i++){
    var elm = document.getElementById(elms[i]);
&lt;/code&gt;
with something along the lines of
&lt;code&gt;
  var elms = document.getElementsByTagName("input");
  for(i=0;i&lt;elms .length;i++){
    var elm = elms[i];
&lt;/code&gt;
to make it more generic.

~d&lt;/elms&gt;&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/elms&gt;&lt;/code&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, neat!  That&#8217;s a good idea.  One improvement might be possible.  It looks like you&#8217;re using &#8220;elms&#8221; to hold the id&#8217;s of all the input fields.  But you could replace<br />
<code><br />
  var elms = ['email','pw'];<br />
  for(var i=0;i&lt;elms .length;i++){<br />
    var elm = document.getElementById(elms[i]);<br />
</code><br />
with something along the lines of<br />
<code><br />
  var elms = document.getElementsByTagName(&quot;input&quot;);<br />
  for(i=0;i&lt;elms .length;i++){<br />
    var elm = elms[i];<br />
</code><br />
to make it more generic.</p>
<p>~d</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
		<link>http://www.wait-till-i.com/2006/10/09/tackling-automatic-field-focus-usability-issues/#comment-3328</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or you could have something like &lt;code&gt;onfocus="cancelInitialFocus()"&lt;/code&gt; on each form field.

Or I think you can do &lt;code&gt;document.addEventListener('focus',cancelInitialFocus,true)&lt;/code&gt; and the &lt;code&gt;target&lt;/code&gt; will be the form field that gets focused.  I seem to remember being able to do something equivalent in IE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you could have something like <code>onfocus=&quot;cancelInitialFocus()&quot;</code> on each form field.</p>
<p>Or I think you can do <code>document.addEventListener('focus',cancelInitialFocus,true)</code> and the <code>target</code> will be the form field that gets focused.  I seem to remember being able to do something equivalent in <span class="caps">IE.</span></p>
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